After a few rehearsals the line-up included Grant Estes[2] on lead guitar, Gallo (rhythm), and original choices Bob Heathcote and Amery Smith were replaced by Louiche Mayorga (bass)[3] and No Mercy's Sal Troy on (drums).

[8] In 1986, Mike Muir signed and released Beowülf's first self-titled LP for Suicidal Records, and in 1987, he joined Venice pals "No Mercy" on their debut album "Widespread Bloodshed, love runs red".

The re-forming record company had its first release in 10 years with the (split) "Friends & Family", a compilation of Suicidal tracks and selections from related Venice bands.

Though it was almost thirty years ago, Los Cycos and Suicidal still remain a heavily influential part of the American punk and skate culture, for music and style.

[12] In 2003, Mike Muir had his first of two back surgeries for a ruptured, herniated disc, the other in 2005 is what thwarted that release as well as him having to cancel his Brazilian festival dates and any up and coming Suicidal shows.