Talk:Transition from Ming to Qing

It seems odd to use a map of the Qing Dynasty as it existed in 1820 to illustrate an topic that occurred in the seventeenth century.

17:06, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply] http://books.google.com/books?id=8nXLwSG2O8AC&pg=PA828#v=onepage&q&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=8nXLwSG2O8AC&pg=PA1307&dq=shibulai&hl=en&sa=X&ei=G5jYU4PAKargsASvpICQDg&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=shibulai&f=false [1] ReferencesWhy does the article not mention the Russian-Manchu military clashes?

After all, while the Manchus conquered China from the north, Russian Cossacks could well seize part of the northern territories and Mongolia.

At that time, the conquest of Siberia was in full swing.--Modun (talk) 02:55, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply] Wu sangui is considered to be a feudal lord AFTER the invasion so we should have Wu sangui shang kexi etc to be listed under the ming defector tab.

There were infighting within the southern ming dynasty and tiandihui gurrilea-like partisans attacking Qing forces.The infighting of the southern ming dynasty and the tiandihui should be added to the article Laney145 (talk) 10:36, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]