The family held the March of Pannonia until 871, but their possession of it was the cause of a dispute, the Wilhelminer War, with the Aribonids.
In the dispute the Wilhelminers had the support of Arnulf of Carinthia and Svatopluk of Moravia.
The Wilhelminers regained some of their lost importance after Arnulf became king in 887.
In 893, however, they came into the hatred of the Bavarian aristocracy, who summarily blinded Engelschalk II without royal approval.
The subsequent years saw some Wilhelminers fleeing to Moravia and others expelled from court.