For the 2012 season, he stepped back to serve as GSR's crew chief for drivers Cassie Gannis and Trevor Cristiani.

[3][4] In 2019, he joined Reaume Brothers Racing in the NASCAR Gander Outdoors Truck Series as a crew chief for their No.

[5] In June, he made his Truck debut in the CarShield 200 at World Wide Technology Raceway at Gateway for Jennifer Jo Cobb Racing, but finished last after wrecking on lap two.

It was a start-and-park field filler entry at that race as a result of only 29 trucks showing up instead of the usual 32.

[citation needed] (key) (Bold – Pole position awarded by qualifying time.