Johann Schrammel

He also had an older half-brother named Konrad Schrammel (1833–1905), who had a less prestigious livelihood as a barrel organ player as he was forced to retire as an "invalid" from military service.

With approximately six years, Johann Schrammel could sing in the church choir in his home town Neulerchenfeld.

His father had helped him receive violin lessons from Ernst Melzer despite a poor financial position.

On 6 January 1861, Johann Schrammel debuted along with his brother and father at a concert at the local inn "Zum goldenen Stuck" at the Neulerchenfelder Straße.

In June 1865 Johann Schrammel left the Conservatory, and unsecured sources claim that he was at that time already a member of the orchestra of Danzers Orpheum, Harmonietheater.