While working in a Washington nightclub in November 1957, they pooled their funds to make a demonstration record and try to sell it in New York.
A few weeks later they met Clint Ballard Jr., the writer of many hit records such as "Good Timin'" for Jimmy Jones, and "I'm Alive" for The Hollies.
"[5] In 1958, after searching through piles of writers' demo tapes, Clint Ballard (now the Kalins' manager) discovered the song "When", written by Paul Evans and Jack Reardon.
The record label wanted to promote "Three O'Clock Thrill" and released it as a single with "When" on the B-side, but Hal and Herbie preferred "When" and persistently plugged it on their nightclub tours.
Then, their one-time support act, Cliff Richard, invited them to play at his Wembley Stadium 'The Event' concerts,[3] as part of a sequence paying homage to the 1950s television pop show, Oh Boy!
Herbert Kalin was married and had four children, Suzan Lynn, Kelly Lee, Buddy Ladd, and Jonathan Ray.
Harold "Hal" Kalin died on August 24, 2005,[8] as a result of injuries sustained in an automobile accident, aged 71.