Kerford left the group, just before the first gig, and Matthew's neighbour, Ravi Low-Beer, stood in on drums.

Low-Beer, Kerford and guitarist, Siddall, all played drums on the four song cassette, Too Ill to Close the Door, which was duplicated and distributed by the group, and reviewed in City Life and the Manchester Evening News.

Karas and Siddall recorded three jingles for the BBC Radio Manchester show, Meltdown, which were played weekly for several months.

Karas and Siddall have written and recorded sporadically since 1987, but have not formally released anything or performed in public.

The earliest such recording, Profoundly Unhappy Again, somehow got into the hands of Radio Manchester broadcaster, John Piper, who played it on BBC Radio 1, in a slot covering the Manchester music scene on Janice Long's evening show in 1987.