He was then given the position of a color commentator by Taz and Bill Alfonso to counterbalance the influence of announcer Joey Styles, who they regarded as being biased against them.

Joel involved himself in a six-man tag team match at 1998 Heat Wave, between Tommy Dreamer, The Sandman and Spike Dudley taking on D-Von, Big Dick and Bubba Ray, insulting head ECW referee John Finnigan.

Despite the 'injury', Joel led the Dudley Boyz to a record eight ECW Tag Team Title reigns until they left for the World Wrestling Federation.

Upon doing so, Gertner turned face and began feuding with The Network's representative Cyrus, and got unlikely support from broadcast partner (and former nemesis) Joey Styles.

Gertner made his Total Nonstop Action Wrestling debut on June 26, 2002 to introduce the a new tag team called the Rainbow Express (Bruce and Lenny Lane).

and Raw, he was pie-faced by John "Bradshaw" Layfield and begged on his hands and knees to then-Raw General Manager Eric Bischoff for a job.

On August 8, 2010, Gertner returned to TNA to take part in ECW reunion show, Hardcore Justice, where he accompanied Team 3D to the ring.

Gertner, on April 27, 2014 at the former ECW Arena in South Philadelphia, was the MC for Masked Mania, and he spoke perfect Spanish throughout the event.