In 1998 they added second guitarist Lars Swenson and began cultivating a dirtier '70s glam-rock sound, as heard on their eMpTy Records releases.

Waude and Swenson left the band in 2001 for other projects, and the Catheters continued as a 4-piece with longtime roadie Leo Gebhardt joining as bassist.

In 2002, with the help of a popular music video, they scored an indie hit with the song "Nothing", from their album Static Delusions and Stone-Still Days (Sub Pop, 2002).

The band dissolved amicably, with Brian Standeford and Davey Borozowski forming the group Tall Birds (later joined by Leo Gebhardt), while Derek Mason went on to play keyboards in the Girls and bass in Sunday Night Blackout.

Idle times has released two seven-inches, and Black Whales have an EP on Mt Fuji Records and a self-released full-length album.